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The watchtower

by A Paduan in

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the watchtower.

once there was a man who lived in a village where some villagers kept some of the ancient things.

and he always wondered why these villagers had kept the ancient things, because they didn't appear to use them - besides, he thought less of the villagers because of the way they lived - they simply shouldn't have had them he thought.

A Paduan

Good idea - I've changed the ending. Check it out. Thanks.

thepaduan

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The people and the tower

by A Paduan in

thought i should post this here too.

the watchtower.

once there was a man who lived in a village where some villagers kept some of the ancient things.

A Paduan

Thought I should post this here too.

The watchtower.

Once there was a man who lived in a village where some villagers kept some of the ancient things. And he always wondered why these villagers had kept the ancient things, because they didn't appear to use them - besides, he thought less of the villagers because of the way they lived - they simply shouldn't have had them he thought.

And it had been said by all that God had a desirable treasure, so he determined that he should have this desirable treasure - deep in his heart he took pride in his efforts, to the point that he could even deserve to acquire the treasure, and he set out to find it by looking in the writings of the ancients.

As he proceeded, he started to come under the spell of the ancient writing, and he started to believe that the ancient things must have been meant for him, of course, and not for the villagers who had wasted what they had - he came to think that the ancient writing spoke of him. Although the secret to the treasure in the spell of God was hidden in plain sight, the spell was very powerful indeed, penetrating the depths of human hearts - able to confuse even the wisest people in the land - it always made the children giggle to see such a wonder right before their eyes.

So he looked at the ancient writing, and not seeing, he made his own stories up; and he looked at the ancient writing and not, seeing he made his own stories up; and he looked at the ancient writing not seeing he made his own stories up!

Now under another spell, he had become so sure of the worthiness of his effort that he made claim he was to receive the treasure of God, and though he had not found the treasure, the idea of the treasure and the stories he made in the spell drove him onward.

Meanwhile other people who had heard about the wonderful treasure heard him going about, and they heard him call, " I have found the way to the treasure. It is over here, so come right now because the time is at hand " Being concerned and even afraid to miss the opportunity they came and listened to his stories of the ancient secrets. As the people listened to the stories that he had made, they agreed how the villagers had been wasteful, and they came also to believe that the wonderful treasure was now as good as theirs.

But time passed and then he died - some became sad from the waiting, but, saving face, his most loyal followers joined together to build a tower from where they could see the wonder coming, or see those who would threaten their beliefs, and also, more others could see and believe them due to their purposeful industriousness - the tower was thought to be such a wonderful accomplishment - the people believed that it was so high that those at the top could even speak to God. And they agreed to hold onto a single language which they could teach to anyone new, with which they put them to work - building at the tower - with tall and hard walls.

Whenever the wonderful treasure seemed lost or far away, followers would tell the new stories from the tower and explain how if the tower was still there and being fortified, so too the treasure must be still coming - as they were under a spell, this seemed to work well enough. But as more promises came and went unfulfilled and the new stories were fanciful and more numerous, the people became more suspicious of the tower, but as they had helped to build it, it was hard for them to know that they were under a spell.

So, unwittingly, they had been trapped in the tower that they had helped to build! Even if they managed to break the spell and escape the tower, how could they get the others out, and undo the spell? Those who had figured it out knew that the way to break the spell was to undo their language, but by now, the builders knew this too, and they were keeping out any other type of language, and hiding any evidence of bad things that were inside - they revered that tower so much because they had built it, and they hated anyone talking badly about it - and especially anyone learning a language that could break the spell.

But unbeknown to most, during all this time, little angels had been sent by God, to confuse their language - and just as suspected, the builders, caring more about their work, had sacrificed them like little lambs. The one language that they spoke could not explain well enough what had happened, and the confusion and disagreement is in the tower - will the tower catch fire and collapse? Who will still be in there?

thepaduan

Edited by - a paduan on 17 August 2002 22:43:57

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The watchtower

by A Paduan in

jw
friends

the watchtower.

once there was a man who lived in a village where some villagers kept some of the ancient things.

and he always wondered why these villagers had kept the ancient things, because they didn't appear to use them - besides, he thought less of the villagers because of the way they lived - they simply shouldn't have had them he thought.

A Paduan

The watchtower.

Once there was a man who lived in a village where some villagers kept some of the ancient things. And he always wondered why these villagers had kept the ancient things, because they didn't appear to use them - besides, he thought less of the villagers because of the way they lived - they simply shouldn't have had them he thought.

And it had been said by all that God had a desirable treasure, so he determined that he should have this desirable treasure - deep inside he even believed he deserved it more, so he set out to find it by looking in the writings of the ancients.

As he proceeded, he started to come under the spell of the ancient writing, and he started to believe that the ancient things must have been meant for him, of course, and not for the villagers who had wasted what they had - he came to think that the ancient writing spoke of him. Although the secret to the treasure in the spell of God was hidden in plain sight, the spell was very powerful indeed, penetrating the depths of human hearts - able to confuse even the wisest people in the land - it always made the children giggle to see such a wonder right before their eyes.

So he looked at the ancient writing, and not seeing, he made his own stories up; and he looked at the ancient writing and not, seeing he made his own stories up; and he looked at the ancient writing not seeing he made his own stories up!

Now under his own spell, he had become so sure of the worthiness of his effort that he made claim he was to receive the treasure of God, and though he had not found the treasure, the stories he made under his spell drove him onward.

Meanwhile other people who had heard about the wonderful treasure heard him going about, and they heard him call, " I have found the way to the treasure. It is over here, so come right now because the time is at hand " Being concerned and even afraid to miss the opportunity they came and listened to his stories of the ancient secrets. As the people listened to the stories that he had made, they agreed how the villagers had been wasteful, and they came also to believe that the wonderful treasure was now as good as theirs.

But time passed and then he died - some became sad from the waiting, but, saving face, his most loyal followers joined together to build a tower from where they could see the wonder coming, or those who would threaten their belief, and also so others could see and believe them, for their purposeful industriousness - in time they even agreed to hold onto a single type of language which they could teach to anyone new, and put them to work - building the tower - with tall and hard walls.

Whenever the wonderful treasure seemed lost or far away, followers would tell the new stories from the tower and explain how if the tower was still there and being fortified, so too the treasure must be still coming - as they were under a certain kind of spell, this seemed to work. But as more promises came and went unfulfilled and the new stories were fanciful and more numerous, the people became more suspicious of the tower.

Now, unwittingly, they were trapped in the tower that they had helped to build! Even if they managed to break the spell and leave the tower, how could they get the others out? By now, the builders had even been hiding what was going on inside - they loved that tower because they had built it, so they hated anyone talking down their tower.

Then some angels were sent to confuse their language - and just as suspected, they sacrificed them like little lambs - confusion and disagreement is underway.

thepaduan

Edited by - A paduan on 17 August 2002 7:10:50

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Rude/Snotty Witnesses

by dottie in

jw
friends

has anyone had an experience similar to the following?

or had a social life(total oxymoron, i know) like mine in the borg?

last evening we had to take our clothes to the laudrymat(sp?

A Paduan

Birds carry and pass many seeds, planting them nearby and far, with fertiliser.

paduan

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Bible is wrong, WT is right

by Nowhere in

bible's view: women can hold positions in the congregation.

proof?

ro 16:1

A Paduan

It looks as though your getting somewhere Nowhere.

The novice said to the Master, "I'm looking for fruit", and the Master replied, "Try shaking the trees".

paduan

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Are Muslims backed by the Christian God?

by TheRedPill in

i was reading in the book of a genesis today and came across an interesting set of scriptures, genesis 21:17-21. it talks about how after abraham sent hagar and ishmael from her house, hagar wandered about in the wilderness and finally, after running out of water, sat down with her baby ishmael and prepared to die.

gods angel then appeared to hagar and told her to rise up, and that ishmael would be the father to a great nation.

he then led her to water and hagar and ishmael and she lived a prosperous life in the wilderness of paran.

A Paduan

1.) Why the promise to Ishmael is not treated with the same weight as the promise to Isaac

Isaac came through promise, Ishmael through effort. Without fruit the effort is made to gain, slaving / using the Law, and the effort/obedience is then sequested for contempt of the fruitless. "the sons of Hagar, who seek for understanding on the earth (not heaven), the merchants of Merran and Teman, the story-tellers and the seekers for understanding, have not learned the way to wisdom, nor given thought to her paths."

2.) Why the God of the future Christians would promise that the line of people that Muslims came from would be a great nation.

God is good to all and does circumcise them also. The 'Muslim nation' per se is not simply the object.

3.) How it seems that the feud between Isaac and Ishmael continues today through the Christian/Muslim wars.

The story tells about those who develop contempt via their own deeds, and those who become fruitful by promise, 'Muslim' or 'Christian'. The fruitless also chastise the contemptuousness of the slave.

Who uses effort and is contemptuous of the fruitless?

paduan

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Dinosaurs~tell me more

by sOOner in

dinosaurs have always fasinated me.when i was a member of jw's they could never explain anything about there existence to me.i have never seen mention of them in the bible.history and fossil remains prove that they did exist.what destroyed them really?was it the flood?

?a meteor??

?how long ago?how old are they?.

A Paduan

It is scientifically accepted that the original inhabitants / descendants of this land (Australia) have been here for forty thousand years +. As far as life goes, here's a quickly accessed snippet - through the Australian tourist commission.

"Trees found in Australias central east coast rainforests include representatives of ancient southern beech families found also in New Zealand and South America. They are genetically identical to fossils found under the Antarctic ice cap, dating back over 100 million years to when Antarctica formed the warm and fertile central portion of the Gondwana supercontinent......Until about 12 million years ago, when Australia grew cooler and more arid, it was largely covered by rainforest."

paduan

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Help! Rev. 1:11, someone expain?

by FRUSR8TD in

so here i am just reading my the book of revelation in my bible (nkv)..and i'm thinking "how can they read this and not see that jesus and god are the same?

so i get out my wife'ss bible (nwt) and boom there it is...my bible has the alpha and omega refrence in rev 1:11...hers does not.

i then take a look at rev 22:19 and there it has the punishments for adding or deleting anything from this book.

A Paduan

1:17 ?

paduan

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Who are these guys?

by Nowhere in

hello, i have a little question here.

(be patient with my english) .

are they really witnesses?

A Paduan

Nowhere,

Your not joking are you - you want to be somewhere. What you wrote:

I know that there are a lot of lies...... I think that they have the wrong impression of God...

Do you need to be somewhere so badly?

The disciple asked, "How shall I get liberation?"

"Find out who has bound you," said the Master.

The disciple returned after a week and said, "No one has bound me."

"Then why ask to be liberated?" said the Master, and the disciple suddenly became free.

paduan

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The Truman Show

by ballistic in

i think everyone who likes the truman show will like this link whether you are religious or not.

i am not religious but open minded.

when i first saw the truman show, i was struck by it's deeper under tones and the philosophical questions it raises.

A Paduan

It does seem like a presentation of conspiracy paranoia - people out to get you - even God out to get you - the stuff of end of the world thinking.

Have you noticed how star wars is catholic? Plain brown robed monks, who use a sword of light - who recognise royalty - who have spiritual bodies in the next life that appear sometimes - even apprentice 'paduans' - who don't possess things, who don't marry - one of their own who turns, but no matter how bad, he is forgiven.

paduan